Act 1 felt like the last part of the story presented from season 1, with Acts 2 and 3 being something entirely different. They really switched from the established Piltover-Zaun conflict to the sisters finding dad and then Viktor being the new main plot and it felt like they left the original plot of the show behind.
1 month ago | 398
The pacing in season 2 was just way to fast. The character development of multiple characters just felt unsatisfying.
1 month ago | 78
I di not like how wide they went so early. It should have been about Zaun and Piltover with the Noxus spice ontop, instead it blew way out of proportions. The multiverse is just to much and say that as a lore fan. Now imagine trying to understand it as a person unfamiliar with the franchise
1 month ago | 44
A little worse, but mostly bc of a phenomenon I like to call “ten writers in a trench coat” syndrome, which league lore as a whole suffers from. Timeline, what timeline? Worldbuilding? What’s that? They spend so much time on plot twists, but then they have limited time to actually show anything else about the world, so while the art is still beautiful, the writing is……….. okay, I guess. Even the MCU has more streamlined and comprehensible lore. Even the DCEU has better lore, bc at least it’s fairly clear when something is being retconned. Like okay—just the time skips alone make it difficult to build a timeline. How long was Jayce stuck in the future? How long was Ekko stuck in an alternate universe? How long did it take for Viktor to build his commune? How long did Jinx stay in hiding for? How long did Viktor spend on healing Vander? Sure, it’s implied that “a reasonably long time passed”, but does that mean a week? A month? A year? Two years? Who knows! Also, it’s a bit frustrating that Viktor got the VGU when arguably Singed needed it more. And desperately so. His arcane version and his league version are WAY too different. Also vander as Warwick, while interesting, does not work. His in game model is entirely different. Are we to assume that they’re two different characters? That Singed made Warwick from a different man in league vs arcane? That Singed remade Warwick after Vander died (probably)? And more questions: what’s the currency of this world? How do they pay for stuff? How do they buy or trade stuff? Who makes the stuff they use? How do they move the stuff around? How do they afford stuff? Who gets the food? What is the food? Where is the food grown and harvested? How is the food stored? We do know plants don’t really grow in Zaun, but what did they eat instead and how did they get it? Especially seeing as they’re a very poor city, they obviously wouldn’t have a lot of trading influence. Idk there’s just way too many plot holes. The show needed another season… either that or they needed to cut at least 2 plot lines. A lot of these questions can be answered with: Who knows! The writers definitely don’t!
1 month ago (edited) | 5
All I'm gonna say is this series really needed a third season
1 month ago | 51
It feels like someone took over halfway through who was entirely uninterested in half of the shit going on. "Class struggles? Recovering from cycles of violence? Guilt and pain driving people to abandon their principles? Nah, we're about 'Magic inherently bad' and 'flaws (including dying of preventable, terminal illnesses) are what make us human' now."
1 month ago | 4
expected a serious class war between oppressed and oppressers with a tragic tale between two sisters at the centre of it all. Then the show went full league of legends. What did i expect?
1 month ago (edited) | 92
So insanely rushed and this is coming from someone who's favourite anime is Kill la Kill. I'm almost certain the studio got pressured by Riot to fit five seasons of material down into one season and it really showed imo. It could have been worse all things considered and the art, designs, animation etc. was all there and still really visually fantastic, but the writing and characterization were a number of steps down from the first season.
1 month ago | 3
The Viktor retcon ruined it for me. Caitlyn losing her eye makes the world of Runeterra lack continuity. These things are not congruent with the lore which disrespectfully disregards the lore builders' initial efforts. Arcane is supposed to expand the lore not mess it up. I hope they learn that the existing lore is beloved and needs to be expanded not retconned. Retconning is only useful when a character lacks identity.
1 month ago (edited) | 2
It is SO much worse, it gets worse the more you think about it, and nearly all of the characters have been assassinated
1 month ago | 10
The thing is Arcane only viewers consider it really really good but anyone who knows about runeterra lore feel off about it cuz it breaks so much of the established things in league canon like how suddenly now, ambessa, jinx, warwick, and heimer are dead. Meanwhile when gangplank died he got disabled until he returned for the rework release, and also the story for ekko feels really off. He's the character who really cares for zaun and you feel that, but the story went more into family with vander jinx and vi being the main points, as well as this thing with noxus for some reason, instead of it being a piltover zaun thing, where at the end piltover and zaun are kinda ok with each other because everybody lost somebody from the noxians, but what happens after that? You can't really make it so that piltover still hates zaun or that zaun won't hate piltover for everything they've done to keep the undercity as it is. For season 1 the story really revelled in league's world but season 2 wanted to be its own thing and it damaged itself to everyone who likes runeterra canon. Bonus thing: I hate Viktor rework and my biggest reason is because they made him magic, he's supposed to be a technological genius, not some wizard. This is piltover and zaun, places of innovation and using whatever you have to live a better life, not unexplainable magic (I know zeri has some magic but zeri's magic at least fits, electricity is fine in piltover and zaun but not whatever viktor ended up being). I love the show, both seasons are good, but I can't for the life of me accept it as canon.
1 month ago | 10
Most of it was on par, with slightly better animation. However, the finale was mostly confusing with a lot of holes. 1) Heimer kinda died, but you barely noticed. 2) The whole time-loop... so, Viktor reached the evolution point, then noticed it kinda sucks. So he goes back in time, and gives one specific kid a specific rune, which inspires jayce to invent hextech with viktor. So, alternatively viktor wouldve managed it on his own? And why would the specific rune matter? And if he can already travel back in time, there's no need for some roundabout way. 3) The personal investment that made the first season so good was kinda missing from the climax. Viktor lost who he was (not in the cool way from his quote) but instead just dropped what made him a favorite and turned him into a bland apocalypse. In s1, you were somehow hoping Silco could get jinx and zaun, and you didn't want him dead or at least empathised with him. In S2, you were just kind of waiting for the thing to be over. 4) Ekko and jinx was cool, both in the alternative universe and the rescue in the finale 5) Vi being stuck with vander at the end despite him being fully gone was more annoying and frustrating than relatable. We had the "Are you still in there dad" like 5 times now, so I no longer felt it justified to kill her over this. 6) Mel's mage thing was kind of... there? I guess the magic was needed to win the fight, but I was never really invested in her black rose development. Killing her may have been the better way to go, giving more motive to jayce, embassa and giving more time to the other things that needed more time, mostly Viktor 7) Embassa helping Viktor is stupid too. Did she listen to anything he said? He obviously wasnt give her an immortal army, but it was necessary for the plot, so she did. Also, why did she agree to 1v2 surrounded by her own soldiers? Not a very wolf thing to do 8) I guess mostly it's just the lackluster villain for the finale. Viktor was amazing before. His accent, his deep care of other people, his will to improve the lives of others using hextech, his being from the undercity and his cripplings. --> It felt like this was dropped over the course of 2 minutes from this, to "i can heal shimmer addiction" to "free will is overrated". Quite a few steps missing in between.
1 month ago | 36
Act 1 was awesome, even better than season 1. Act 2 was great, on par with Season 1. Act 3 felt rushed and I feel like it pushed the series in another direction than was set up in the last 5 Acts. I think it a 4th act would have been needed to fletch that out more. Also I was personally disappointed by 80% of character endings, but that is a completely personal feeling
1 month ago | 7
Multiverse action in the second season is shit, i hate the Warwick/Viktor plot. So many champs are not cannon anymore. Whole Zaun/Piltover plot was forgotten. So yea, kinda bad tbh
1 month ago | 3
season one felt lot more like league story. Rather then story with league champions
1 month ago | 8
I had so many hopes for the show, going to finally show us the real forms of champions as they are in the game, especially Viktor and Warwick, but it didn’t happen. The ending soured the entire show a lot for me, so much that I’m starting to see multiple things that are bad with season 2. Like characters acting out of character especially.
1 month ago (edited) | 10
It seemed like it was supposed to be 12 episodes, but they had to cut the whole setup to the ending. That last chunk before the big battle is disorienting af.
1 month ago | 4
Season 2 was just confusing, while season 1 had more clear direction and more explanations while still staying mysterious, season 2 just left me with so many questions that i will never probably get an answer for, while the music and animations was high quality again, the actual story telling suffered a bit, it was still really good and i highly enjoyed it, but also just viktor and jayce as characters are really confusing, i still dont fully understand why viktor did the things he did, why did he turn control freak maniac, why did they need to commit sudoku at the end like couldnt they just... stop?, viktor saw the future through jayces soul, knew that he made a huge mistake, instead of just stopping they needed to use the gem to kill themselves like just why? i loved the season 2, but the plot just felt too complicated and rushed
1 month ago (edited) | 50
Vars
So now that it’s been a fair while since Arcane S2 came out, how we all feeling about it?
1 month ago | [YT] | 363